Queens Fish Bar 6:18 Mon Oct 17
Airport capacity?
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Extra runway, Heathrow, Gatwick, or both?
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Far Cough
6:18 Mon Oct 17
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Boris island
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Mike Oxsaw
6:52 Mon Oct 17
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Expand Gatwick, Stansted & Birmingham.
Construct grown up transport links between all 3 & Heathrow. Oh, wait. trains are not sexy; that will never work.
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webby25
7:18 Mon Oct 17
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Both will get it. Heathrow now and Gatwick to start in a few years. Will still be a legal wrangle, mind.
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lab
7:21 Mon Oct 17
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Whilst all the celebs and rich people fly into farnborough .
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ray winstone
9:12 Mon Oct 17
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No ifs no buts.......
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riosleftsock
9:21 Mon Oct 17
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Should expand Heathrow, Gatwick, Stansted, Luton and Brum.
And improve the rail/bus connections.
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zebthecat
9:28 Mon Oct 17
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I'd go for Stansted and improve rail links there.
Heathrow is stupid for a number of reasons but largely because it is difficult to build on and hugely expensive.
Gatwick is the wrong side of London - great to get to if you live on Sussex or Surrey but pretty terrible for everywhere else and they can't get rid of the slots that already exist there let alone enough to use another runway.
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Queens Fish Bar
10:25 Tue Oct 18
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As I understand it, there are only 2 airports in play.
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Hasans Fish Bar RIP
11:02 Tue Oct 18
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Should go tits out and do both. Once Heathrow builds its third it'll banged out right away. There's a reason its at capacity. Airlines want to fly there. Gatwick will always be the 'ryanair' of the two. Unless you do an HS3 type thing from Gatwick I don't it would work if Gatwick got the nod
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Queens Fish Bar
11:33 Tue Oct 18
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HFB RIP
Make you about right regarding both airports.
As you kind of allude to, airport development needs to be considered in a joined up manner with other modes of transport. E.g. An integrated transport strategy for the U.K.
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Crassus
11:37 Tue Oct 18
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There is a whole industrial infrastructure reliant upon Heathrow, with it mass employment
Building there is not just an expansion issue, it is an issue of retaining what we have there first then gaining more
Fail to expand and lose it all to Europe as the primary gateway
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Queens Fish Bar
11:43 Tue Oct 18
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But it would help Britain to take back control of our borders?
I get the economic case.
I'm just incredulous that they've pushed the decision out further again. In the interests of the Tory party not the country.
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greenie1
11:43 Tue Oct 18
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I always thought the airport design by Norman Foster was a good idea.
http://londonist.com/2011/11/norman-foster-outlines-thames-estuary-airport-plans
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mallard
11:45 Tue Oct 18
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Re-open Manston, Kent and link it to the High Speed train service
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Hasans Fish Bar RIP
12:24 Wed Oct 19
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Crassus is right there.
I think LHR will get the nod based on that, much to the chagrin of the Richmond and west London set. We need to be competing with schiipol and Frankfurt etc
Talking of transport links, I'd forgotten Heathrow was on crossrail which.again makes another case for the expansion.
I do like the foster plan and its echoes of Victorian ballsyness however. But that will never happen
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Crassus
12:30 Wed Oct 19
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QFB
True but generally bollox of a one eyed nature
The Tories for sure don't fancy pissing off the same constituencies already aggrieved with the ludicrous HS2
But labour kicked this issue into the long grass for years at the expense of primarily their voters on account of pseudo green arguement and of course the simple fact that any benefit would fall outside of the life of the administration that incurred it
Political disgrace on all sides
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GreenStreetPlayer
1:03 Wed Oct 19
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greenie1 11:43 Tue Oct 18
Along with a new tidal barrier to replace the Woolwich barrier, could also add in there a new river crossing for the Thames as the Dartford crossing has reached capacity. Need one big project to fix three problems.
Does need someone with vision for the next 50 years and seeing the bigger picture, and not short term sticky plaster measures.
Should have built the M25 with six lanes in the outset as you'll see they'll keep adding a lane every so often.
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Mike Oxsaw
1:30 Wed Oct 19
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The answer to the M25 is to build a limited access motorway viaduct above it that connects only with other motorways and take out completely the local traffic. Don't like that? Then how about a partial ring between the M11 & the M3? No? Build more fucking railways then and get the freight off the roads.
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Pedro
10:58 Wed Oct 19
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Guaranteed to be Heathrow.
At the end of the day all the major airlines want Heathrow - because of it is the only true London airport - not including City in this.
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Spandex Sidney
11:02 Wed Oct 19
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Heathrow, nailed on
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